He likes the super 10 speeds he drove in big trucks. Latest transmission titbit zf 9hp written by editor on 20140424, posted in car chat, technical talk 1 comment the zf 9hp is a 9speed automatic transmission for transverse engine layout, which is used on the jeep cherokee and the upcoming acura tlx. These are supposed to be sealed for life in other words no need for oil changes, it would seem that following this lack of maintenance causes failure of the gearbox in as little as 60,000 miles sometimes much less. The worlds first ninespeed automatic, it was introduced with promises of up to 16 percent improvements in fuel economy compared with a sixspeed automatic. Zfmopar 9speed fixed, v8s to continue allpar forums. We have a 2005 jeep grand cherokee that has been a lemon. Zf 9hp48 chrysler 948te transmission shift improvements. Mercedesbenz releases details on 9gtronic ninespeed auto. Zf claims that it is able to save an average of 16% in fuel compared with current 6 speed automatic transmissions. Bondo home solutions wood filler rebuilds, restores and replaces rotted or damaged sections of wood on doors, windows, fences, furniture, shutters and more. Fca and zf will recall ninespeed automatic gearbox. Zf 9speed automatic transmission details motorward. Fiat chrysler recalls nervous ninespeed transmission.
There are software upgrades but they do not fix the problem. Ive met an engineer working for zf not the transmission division but knows all about it. The cherokees 20 launch was delayed several months because of the software controlling its ninespeed automatic transmission and allwheeldrive system. The transmission should default to neutral when there is now power to the trans. The transmission has a torque range between 280 and. The 9 speed automatic transmission is stopstart capable, without an additional oil pump.
Has anyone tried to swap a fca 8 speed into an earlier grand cherokee. Zf aftermarket repairs your construction and agricultural machinery transmissions, axles and steering systems in manufacturer quality. That means it matches the engine and road capabilities better than others and it must be an auto transmission of the dsgtype dualclutch, directshifting gearbox. The manufacturer just issued a new software update for the transmissions. Jeep grand cherokee transmission problems car forums at. We found the 9 speed and ids system to work flawlessly. Jul 08, 2015 jeep, chrysler, acura 9speed automatics. As to the zf 9 speed automatic transmission and ids. Dec 06, 2016 9speed transmission boosts chevrolet fuel economy 2% mark phelan, detroit free press auto critic published 7.
May 26, 20 its the same as 4, 5 or 6gear, except that its a 9 speed transmission. The gm 8speed transmission needs to go away asap gm. Fiat chrysler executives say they are straightening out software problems with the automakers ninespeed automatic transmission, but nagging. Although the dealership claims that the transmission fluid is a lifetime fill that is not the case. Nine things about the jeep cherokees ninespeed transmission.
Five speed automatics have given way to six, seven, eight, and nine speed gearboxes, with a new 10 speed transmission becoming available for 2017 in talk about an odd couple the ford f. New 9speed auto transmission also a gas saver zdnet. In 2014 the 9 speed automatic transmission replaced the 722. Fca and zf issue recall on ninespeed automatic transmission. Although with the same aluminum made torque converter bell housing, compared to the current 7gtronic, this 9gtronic transmission changes to use magnesium alloy to construct its main casing, which is lighter and retains the same strength. Zf 9speed automatic transmission for chrysler cars. On august 31, 2016, fca issued tsb 21016 discussing the quick learn procedure for 9 speed transmission problems in the 2016 model year and what to do if customers indicate that their transmission shift quality may be erratic two tsbs released in 2017 tsb 1801817 and tsb 2100817 discuss issues related to bumps. Henrik kalczynski is manager of hydraulic transmission development at. Jul 24, 20 the car is also good for 062 mph acceleration in just 6. Request a dealer quote or view used cars at msn autos. Chrysler has released a new software update following more complaints over the ninespeed automatic in the jeep cherokee and chrysler. Zf ninespeed transmission problems, recalls and praise. What you need to know about zfs recent 9speed recall. Zf unveiled the worlds first nine speed transverse automatic transmission in june 2011, starting production in 20.
The new 9 speed was gms but the 10 speed was fords baby. We are now offering diagnostics and repair of range rover l322 auto gearboxes. Last year, mercedesbenz debuted its 9 speed transmission called 9gtronic in its european market e class sedan. Zf has said this is due to software problems, not mechanical issues. Can anyone provide the actual manufacturerrecommended replacement interval for the 9 speed transmission. Ford zf 6 speed boys need your help zf repairreplace. Aug 23, 2015 why does the new 9 speed auto in certain chrysler, jeep, honda, acura, fiat and range rover products feel unusual. The transmissions are stopstart, hybrid, and allwheeldrive capable. The reason zf s 8 speed 8hp doesnt have the same delta in performance over the average 6 speed as the 6 speed had over the 4 speed, is easy to explain.
Last month, jeep said it would recall 2014 cherokees equipped with a 3. Fca and zf issue recall on ninespeed automatic transmission the 9hp transmission can unexpectedly shift into neutral. It can also be used as a hybrid transmission by replacing the torque converter with an electric motor. Im really hoping that honda ditches this transmission in the touring and elite models for 2017. Jan 11, 2011 zf, the wellknown german manufacturer of transmissions, has announced it will start producing a 9 speed automatic transmission. Jan 12, 2011 new 9 speed auto transmission also a gas saver.
Every car with the 9 speed gets complaints about the transmission. Zf meritor tcu 2 9 speed direct drive, a ratio m15g9am15 m15g9ad15 m15g9ae15 m15g9as15 9 speed overdrive, a ratio mo14g9am14 mo14g9ad14 mo14g9ae14 mo14g9as14 9 speed overdrive, b ratio mo15g9bm15 mo15g9bd15 mo15g9be15 mo15g9bs15 10 speed. Repairs, preventative overhauls, upgrades or the use of replacement. Acura mdx power train 2016 acura mdx problems with. The 7g nag2 transmission was initially installed on many models that had the m272 and m273 transmission.
Ford zf shifter parts we carry a fine selection of ford zf shifter repair parts and zf 5 speed transmission parts, all marked at prices well below what youre likely to find elsewhere. Cost to repairreplace transmission 2004 to 2016 mazda 3. The jeep plant in toledo, oh, briefly idled its secondshift workers last year to take care of the issue. Coverage for mechanical breakdowns begins after the manufacturers warranty expires. He said, run dont walk from anything with the 9 speed. Maintenance and repair with zf aftermarket zf aftermarket. The various components of the transmission can be assessed precisely in accordance with the. Zf 9speed automatic problems mount, chrysler releases. Why does the new 9 speed auto in certain chrysler, jeep, honda, acura, fiat and range rover products feel unusual. After more than two years, thousands of warranty claims, and hundreds of owner complaints, transmission supplier zf is finally issuing a recall to fix its nine speed automatic. Rather than a physical fix, zf is issuing a software update to remedy the.
By the time we reached 1kmh on the test track, the transmission was only in fifth gear, and the engine was turning only 2,100 rpmagainst a speed several hundred rpm higher with the old six speed automatic. I deepdive into the first production 9 speed transmission to answer that. Aug 08, 2016 fca, honda american and land rover na will all be recalling vehicles to address a wiring issue with the 9 speed zf automatic transmission after the transmission supplier itself announced a recall. Why does the new 9speed auto in certain chrysler, jeep, honda, acura, fiat and range rover products feel unusual. This comprehensive automatic transmission kit includes everything to service your 0c8 tiptronic 8 speed automatic transmission. Also found in models from acura, honda, jeep, range rover, and others, the gearbox has been problematic from the start. The zf 9hp is a ninespeed automatic transmission built by zf friedrichshafen ag subsidiary.
In either case, individual driving pleasure is not diminished because drivers can decide. Would you shy away from the zf 9speed transmission in. Based on our experience, acura has made the right transmission choice for mdx. Chrysler and honda thought the could fix it through software which didnt work out. March 2, 2018 a chrysler 9 speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit may finally be reaching an. Woes mount for 9speed automatic transmission, latest. The transmission has a torque range between 280 and 480 nm. Driving it home, when we tried to stop, the motor revved up and the vehicle stalled out. Previous post new real life photos of bmw 1m in the us. Because of the aluminum case, the tapered roller bearings of the transmission shafts must be fitted under preload. Instead of a mechanical fix, which would include the replacement of the wiring harness for the transmission, zf has decided to issue a software fix for these nine speed units. This is because heat expansion of the this manual has been compiled in an effort to assist in the repair of valve bodies for 5 speed zf.
The 2015 jeep renegade has 21 problems reported for 9 speed automatic transmission problem. Transmission service repair manuals pdf online download. In this video, i go over repairs that are allowed by chrysler jeep dodge vehicles with the 9 speed transmission. I have driven many of the honda crv models, but this one is creating a stir with its 9speed automatic transmission combined with the new 1. Com one of chryslers most ambitious features of the jeep cherokees rebirth in 2014 was its standard and highly technical nine speed automatic transmission from zf. Meritor 9 10 speed manual transmission operator manual tp 8989 meritor adjusting 14 15. We, the undersigned, represent a group of owners who purchased the allnew acura tlx in 2015 and are seeking action from acura to remedy poor transmission performance. Just wait a year or two before the new inhouse 10 speed.
The renegade has an identical ninespeed automatic but a different allwheeldrive system than the cherokee. Zf claims that it is able to save an average of 16% in fuel compared with current 6speed automatic transmissions. In many cases, the transmission software was updated, but many. Zf meritor trans stuck in high gear scan says vss speed. Supplier zf recall impacts chrysler, jeep, ram, honda and.
Moreover, disc clutch a can be packaged within transmission 10 without extending the length of the typical ninespeed transmission 900, thereby enabling automatic transmission 10 to be used in vehicles designed to accept transmission. I have the gear to do this, you can borrow in exchange for alcohol if you like. Fca and zf issue recall on nine speed automatic transmission the 9hp transmission can unexpectedly shift into neutral. Totally different than the 8 speed zf which is great. I am guessing by the time you would have to replace a 2014 mazda 3 transmission you can find replacement ones for under dollars, including labor. We found the 9 speed and ids system to work flawlessly, and did. It was later installed in all models including 4matics, diesel, and rear wheel drive models. Does someone know a 2 ton or box truck application that has a standard tranny heaver built than the one dodge. Zf contradicts fca on zf8 lifetime transmission fluid. I would like to install this transmission into my 97 grand cherokee with a 5. It is a fronttransverse transmission, used in frontwheel drive and allwheel drive vehicles. Or you can just reprogram a transmission to the car. What you need to know about zf s recent 9speed recall if youre the owner of a jeep cherokee, chrysler 200, jeep renegade, or ram promaster that rolled off the assembly line during 2014 or 2015 and is equipped with a 9 speed transmission, you may have recently been surprised by a letter informing you of a transmission recall.
We took it in and they reprogrammed the transmission and sealed the transmission leakage problem. Transmission manuals free download global transmission. If an output sensor has an issue you should be able to shift the transmission manually with the shift paddle. While any or all of these could have been corrected for 2016 my, except the dog clutch, good or bad, that is to big of change to happen by 2016.
Occasional hard shift on 9speed automatic transmission. With the introduction of an allnew 9 speed, transverse mounted automatic transmission, we have uncovered a varied set of actual, reported and potential transmission. After more than two years, thousands of warranty claims, and hundreds of owner complaints, transmission supplier zf is finally issuing a recall to fix its ninespeed automatic. Theres a quieter development at this years detroit auto show that may seriously improve a cars fuel efficiency. Automakers including chrysler have made multiple software updates. Jeep cherokee transmission problems and owner complaints on 2014 2016 model years. Next post mini paceman to be built in graz, austria, launch date in 20. Does anyone know a good option to replace the factory transmission. This wood filler is the best choice for repairing any wooden item in or around your home.
The way the zf designed the 9 speed doesnt make it shift smooth. Hard, strange shifts and sudden shutdowns with the zf 9speed transmission. Jan 11, 2011 zf announces new 9 speed transmission. Chrysler 9speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit nearly settled. Ive been doing some research on the zf8s supposedly lifetime transmission fluid. Problems with the zfdesigned ninespeed automatic transmission are. The 8hps ratio spread is 7, just 1 higher than a 6 speed. The dog clutch that was talked about again and again, software, internal components, why do cherokees refuse to start and state there is transmission problem.
Bulletins tsb for the 2014 jeep cherokee to fix rough and delayed gearshifts, and acura has issued transmissionrelated recalls for the 2015 acura tlx. In 2015, zf supplied tips for driving cars equipped with its 9 speed automatic and said american driving styles, and the transmission s adaptive learning could be attributed to lumpy shifts. Ford zf 6 speed boys need your help zf repair replace option 091115, 05. The transmission senses speed from the abs sensors. Now, the engineers may have found a way to fix it for good. All about the zf 9hp 9 speed automatic transmission. The software in over half of the troubled 9 speed automatic transmissions has been reflashed in jeep cherokees and chrysler 200s, though complaints continue to grow. The cherokees transmission software has been problematic practically since the beginning. Only one friction shift element needs to be closed on restart, so response times are very fast. Ford zf shifter parts manual transmission repair parts. The transmission started the surging about 9 months ago. With stopstart enabled, zf claims up to an 11 percent improvement in fuel economy over its own six speed automatic. Woes mount for 9speed automatic transmission, latest recall covers.
All about the zf 9hp 9 speed automatic transmission youtube. Chrysler issues another fix for 9speed automatic transmission. Im having a very bad engineering day, marchionne said. Com one of chryslers most ambitious features of the jeep cherokees rebirth in 2014 was its standard and highly technical nine speed automatic transmission from zf friedrichshafen ag. Hard, strange shifts and sudden shutdowns with the. Honda lurches ahead with pesky 9speed transmission. Another fix for jeeps troubled 9speed automotive news.
Ive even scoured some audi and bimmer forums for information, so you dont have to. Oct 19, 2009 hot shot driver shells another dodge transmission. Zf recalls ninespeed automatic for random drops into. In automated manual transmissions, electromechanical or hydraulic actuators take over the clutch and shift actions. Jun 02, 2011 fully animated 9 speed automatic transmission, based on an advanced lepelletier ravigneaux gearset. This marks the third time the automaker has released a software patch the last occurred in may since the cherokees debut in late 20, which was delayed to fix problems with the transmission. I deepdive into the first production 9 speed transmission to answer that question. What you need to know about zf s recent 9speed recall if youre the owner of a jeep cherokee, chrysler 200, jeep renegade, or ram promaster that rolled off the assembly line during 2014 or 2015 and is equipped with a 9 speed transmission, you may have recently been surprised by a letter informing you of a transmission. The passport 9 speed performance is much better, its smoother, less sluggish from stopped position, littleor no jerkiness. The 9 speed zf 9hp automatic transmission warranty will be extended to 6 years or 100,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first. He told me that the 9 speed is a terrible transmission and theres no cure or fix for it. The nine speed transmission manufactured by zf friedrichshafen ag, for honda and acura uses 16 percent less fuel than a six speed at constant speeds, although it takes some getting.
New 9speed pushes tech limit, gm says the new 9 speed yielded gm 60 new patents and required 800 prototypes. Jeep didnt say what the fix would be for those cars, but said a remedy is under development. Tremec world class t5 1st 2nd gear synchronizer ring pack. Range rover l322 automatic gearbox diagnostics and repairs. If i open the preferences to the bandwidth page and edit the download rate, then all is fine. Whether on full throttle or under only partial acceleration, the gasoline turbo four and nine speed play well together. Christoph dorr is senior manager of project development 9gtronic at daimler ag in stuttgart germany. Automotive news mentions that gms nine speed transmission which the company claims offers smoother shifts and a better driving experiencedoesnt appear to have yielded much fuel. I have this transmission and like it in my 2017 ram 1500 and think it would make a great swap, however linking trans.
Update required for chryslers 9speed gearbox the car guide. Owned a 2015 mdx and a 2017 pilot exl, the latter i chose specifically because i didnt like the performance of the mdx 9 speed. Why ford isnt using gms ninespeed automatic transmission. For owners, how is the 9 speed transmission in the passport. Learn more about the 2015 mazda 3s performance including information on the engine, fuel economy, transmission, suspension and more. We stock every model meritor transmission, replacement part, seal, bearings, kits and more. Apr 19, 2015 as to the zf 9 speed automatic transmission and ids. Zfs 9speed 9hp transmission puts dog clutches on the. Turner diagnostics range rover l322 gearbox repairs.
The most unique element of the unit is an industryfirst deployment of a selectable 1. Following removal and repair, the zf pressure measuring case can be used for quality control. The transmission features an aluminum case 7005 with an integral clutch housing. A series of technical service bulletins tsb prove the problem persists. Automakers using the zf 8hp include audi, bmw, chrysler and.
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